Scrivener 2.0 support for citations
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Hi Mekentosj Team,
this forum will be inundated by reports, suggestions etc. But when it all ebbs, please come back to this humble feature request:
I write my manuscripts using Scrivener 2.0, because just as Papers 2.0 for articles it's the most functional writing environment out there: http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php
Thank you for adding this elegant citation feature that allows
me to finally ditch Endnote!
It would be fantastic, if the insert citation/format bibliography
functionality was available also for Scrivener. After all your goal
is to allow citations in every Mac application, right! Scrivener
2.0 and Papers 2.0? They just seem made to play nice together.
Update from Mekentosj on this topic: things have improved since that question was posted. See current support level for Scrivener in this post: http://support.mekentosj.com/kb/getting-started/scrivener-and-magic...
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92 Posted by Jose on 29 Jul, 2012 03:52 AM
I agree with Cory post a 100%. I am also willing to wait, but please keep it in your back burner. Full integration between papers and scrivener, a beautiful idea. If you build it they will come. Thanks.
J
93 Posted by Gregor Tomasevc on 16 Aug, 2012 12:19 PM
Hi!
I'm experiencing the same problem using Papers2 w/ Scrivener as Simon Knight (posted in this thread on July 09) - i.e. when trying to insert citekey inside Scrivener, I get either noting at all, or whatever happens to be on my pasteboard.
Any ideas, anyone? Papers team - is this a known bug (it used to work just fine, don't know after which update it stopped).
Otherwise, great application!
-Gregor
94 Posted by Timothy Roes on 16 Aug, 2012 12:58 PM
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95 Posted by Gregor Tomasevic on 16 Aug, 2012 04:29 PM
OK, the problem I described above seems to go away when I set Scratch Pad Hot Key to nothing in the Scrivener prefs. Dunno what this has to do with anything, but it seems to be working now.
-Gregor
96 Posted by Gregor Tomasevic on 17 Aug, 2012 03:01 AM
Nope, that was a temporary improvement. It's back. Very frustrating, to the point that the combination Papers/Scrivener is virtually unusable for me.
As an aside, I have two other computers, where I am running Papers2 2.2 and Scrivener 2.2 - and everything is working fine on these machines.
All suggestions most welcome.
-Gregor
97 Posted by prseye on 17 Aug, 2012 03:12 AM
Hi Gregor,
I have the same problem (posted about it in June) and for me the cause is a clipboard manager (CopyPastePro). When I quit CopyPaste, citations are inserted as they should be.
Paul
98 Posted by Gregor Tomasevic on 17 Aug, 2012 03:29 AM
Thanks, Paul.
I already tried deleting my clipboard manager (Jumpcut), but unfortunately that does not seem to help.
Weirdly, I use the same app on my other computers, where everything seems to work.
-Gregor
99 Posted by Gregor Tomasevic on 28 Aug, 2012 01:45 PM
Hi.
Any news on this issue from the Papers team?
Like said, it seems to be an issue with the latest version of Papers, and not with the (two) other machines that run 2.1.
-Gregor
Support Staff 100 Posted by charles on 11 Sep, 2012 08:33 PM
Hi all,
I just wanted to more clearly state that we have 2 opened bugs with the Scrivener interaction, that we still need to solve. I have not been yet able to understand what is going on, but I hope to eventually get those fixed:
issue with insertion of citations with Scrivener; instead of the citation, you get the current content of the clipboard; the bug is not always there, and sometimes linked to the use of another 3rd party app that interacts with key strokes
issue with footnotes created by Scrivener for Word: the citations are mangled by Magic Manuscripts when inside footnotes; the bug seems to affect all users
Thanks for your patience on this. I will update everyone on this thread, as well as individual discussions that others have started, when more info is available.
Best wishes,
Charles
Knowledge Base for Papers:
http://support.mekentosj.com/kb
Support Staff 101 Posted by charles on 30 Sep, 2012 08:46 PM
Hi all,
I believe the issues with footnote mangling in Scrivener may have been solved in Papers 2.3.9, which is currently in beta: http://support.mekentosj.com/kb/how-to/how-to-sign-up-for-beta-vers...
Please let us know if you have a chance to test it, and wether it works or not.
Thanks very much!
Charles
102 Posted by Niko on 17 Oct, 2012 01:23 PM
This comment was split into a new private discussion: Bug: Scrivener and cites in footnotes
Hi Charles,
Thanks for your work on this. However, I find that running 2.3.9 I am not having success with MHRA on Scrivener.
My workflow is:
Use MM dialog to insert cite-key in scrivener footnote.
Compile scrivener document as .docx
Open the .docx in Word. The cite-key is there in the footnote.
Open MM dialog and set the referencing style to MHRA (footnote).
Result: The first word of the document is removed and replaced by a footnote which now contains the reference that was inserted at a different location. Also, the location where the citation footnote should be is now an empty footnote.
The above is an example using a single citation and a line of text, run as a test.
If I go the alternative route of having the MM citekey in the main text in Scrivener, then I can get things to work, but it is a pity to have the cite keys in the Scrivener main text, and much better to have these keys in footnotes in the scrivener doc as intended.
Hope this helps. Looking forward to seamless Scrivener/Papers integration which would be pretty close to the ideal writing environment.
Niko
Support Staff 103 Posted by charles on 17 Oct, 2012 03:19 PM
@Niko: thanks. I am starting a private thread to get more details from you.
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104 Posted by paulknox on 28 Nov, 2012 03:53 PM
Hello,
Is there any more news about using Papers2 with Scrivener?
Thanks,
Paul K.
105 Posted by Timothy Roes on 28 Nov, 2012 04:15 PM
I am away from e-mail until Friday 30 November. For urgent matters, please contact [email blocked].
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